Comments on: An Atoning Messiah? http://www.anatheist.net/2008/10/an-atoning-messiah/ Atheism & Religious Skepticism Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:11:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tabatha http://www.anatheist.net/2008/10/an-atoning-messiah/comment-page-1/#comment-15119 Tabatha Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:43:51 +0000 http://www.anatheist.net/?p=849#comment-15119 Firstly, anyone who studies the Tanakh in the original Hebrew - as most Jews do - will know that there is nothing about Jesus anywhere IN it. Christianity tries very hard to back engineer Jesus into the Hebrew scriptures, but it can't, as he isn't there. Secondly: in Judaism, NO one person can possibly 'atone' for the sins of others. This entire notion is totally at odds with Jewish belief. The Torah tells us, categorically, that EACH human is responsible for their OWN sins. Isaiah 53 - again, if one reads the whole of Isaiah, sans the artificial 'chapter breaks' added by the Church then one sees clearly that the 'suffering servant' is ISRAEL. Firstly, anyone who studies the Tanakh in the original Hebrew – as most Jews do – will know that there is nothing about Jesus anywhere IN it. Christianity tries very hard to back engineer Jesus into the Hebrew scriptures, but it can't, as he isn't there.

Secondly: in Judaism, NO one person can possibly 'atone' for the sins of others. This entire notion is totally at odds with Jewish belief. The Torah tells us, categorically, that EACH human is responsible for their OWN sins.

Isaiah 53Open Link in New Window – again, if one reads the whole of Isaiah, sans the artificial 'chapter breaks' added by the Church then one sees clearly that the 'suffering servant' is ISRAEL.

]]> By: Old Testament Messiah « Arthenor’s Ramblings http://www.anatheist.net/2008/10/an-atoning-messiah/comment-page-1/#comment-1138 Old Testament Messiah « Arthenor’s Ramblings Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:13:03 +0000 http://www.anatheist.net/?p=849#comment-1138 [...] Testament Messiah James responds to my previous claim in “More On Faith” in “An Atoning Messiah”. Both my claims and his responses deal with two specific [...] [...] Testament Messiah James responds to my previous claim in “More On Faith” in “An Atoning Messiah”. Both my claims and his responses deal with two specific [...]

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