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	<title>Comments on: Bible-Based Morality? The Fifth Commandment</title>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6546</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping with the Hebrew meaning of words lets look at the meaning of &#8220;curses&#8221; in Leviticus 20:9. This does not simply mean to use profane language against someone. Qalal means to bring into contempt (malice, hatred, disdain, scorn, disrespect) and to be vile (wretchedly bad, highly offensive, morally debased, depraved, or despicable). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping with the Hebrew meaning of words lets look at the meaning of &ldquo;curses&rdquo; in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+20%3A9&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Leviticus 20:9">Leviticus 20:9</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+20%3A9&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>. This does not simply mean to use profane language against someone. Qalal means to bring into contempt (malice, hatred, disdain, scorn, disrespect) and to be vile (wretchedly bad, highly offensive, morally debased, depraved, or despicable).</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6552</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claim that a Commandment to honor ones parents ignores everyone else is a bit shortsighted. If children are brought up to be honoring, honorable, good and respectful, than that behavior will translate to their relationships with others in all walks of life. If everyone was successfully brought up to &#8220;be&#8221; honorable and respectful than obviously everyone would &#8220;have&#8221; honor and respect. 
 
Good adults do not generally become good adults by accident; they are the result of diligent training on the part of the parents. While some discipline may be necessary, the parents should always have the best interests of their children at heart. &#8220;The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame&#8221; (Proverbs 29:15). 
 
It starts in the home with the parents and their children, that&#8217;s why the fifth Commandment is important, it deals with the foundation of how they will treat and relate to others for the rest of their lives. And when parents raise honoring children it will also come back to them in the end, when they are older and need help with care. &#8220;Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old.&#8221; (Proverbs 23:22). The aged and elderly need the love and respect of their children. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim that a Commandment to honor ones parents ignores everyone else is a bit shortsighted. If children are brought up to be honoring, honorable, good and respectful, than that behavior will translate to their relationships with others in all walks of life. If everyone was successfully brought up to &ldquo;be&rdquo; honorable and respectful than obviously everyone would &ldquo;have&rdquo; honor and respect. </p>
<p>Good adults do not generally become good adults by accident; they are the result of diligent training on the part of the parents. While some discipline may be necessary, the parents should always have the best interests of their children at heart. &ldquo;The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+29%3A15&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 29:15">Proverbs 29:15</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+29%3A15&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). </p>
<p>It starts in the home with the parents and their children, that&rsquo;s why the fifth Commandment is important, it deals with the foundation of how they will treat and relate to others for the rest of their lives. And when parents raise honoring children it will also come back to them in the end, when they are older and need help with care. &ldquo;Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old.&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+23%3A22&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 23:22">Proverbs 23:22</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+23%3A22&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). The aged and elderly need the love and respect of their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6550</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the mention of chastening children in Proverbs 13:24, that is simply disciplining them. As used in some versions of this verse, discipline means &#8220;to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise. As used in other versions, chasten means: 
 
To subject to affliction or trouble, in order to produce a general change for the better in life or character. To punish is to inflict penalty for violation of law, disobedience to authority, or intentional wrongdoing. To chastise is to punish a particular offense, as with stripes, especially with the hope that suffering or disgrace may prevent a repetition of faults. 
 
Every home should be a happy home, and while discipline is a necessary tool, the end result should always be positive. Proverbs 13:24 is simply saying that if you don&#8217;t care about your child, you won&#8217;t be concerned with the development of their character. The antonym for chasten is indulge. We&#8217;ve all seen what terrible brats children can be when parents continually indulge them. Children without boundaries grow up without restraints. If they are not taught restraints they often grow up to become criminals, taking what they want and doing as they please. &#8220;Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right&#8221; (Proverbs 20:11). It is obvious which children have been instilled with a deep respect for authority and which have not, the Bible says in the last days there will be a breakdown of family and a rise in wayward children (2 Timothy 3:1-5). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the mention of chastening children in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+13%3A24&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 13:24">Proverbs 13:24</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+13%3A24&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>, that is simply disciplining them. As used in some versions of this verse, discipline means &ldquo;to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise. As used in other versions, chasten means: </p>
<p>To subject to affliction or trouble, in order to produce a general change for the better in life or character. To punish is to inflict penalty for violation of law, disobedience to authority, or intentional wrongdoing. To chastise is to punish a particular offense, as with stripes, especially with the hope that suffering or disgrace may prevent a repetition of faults. </p>
<p>Every home should be a happy home, and while discipline is a necessary tool, the end result should always be positive. <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+13%3A24&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 13:24">Proverbs 13:24</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+13%3A24&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> is simply saying that if you don&rsquo;t care about your child, you won&rsquo;t be concerned with the development of their character. The antonym for chasten is indulge. We&rsquo;ve all seen what terrible brats children can be when parents continually indulge them. Children without boundaries grow up without restraints. If they are not taught restraints they often grow up to become criminals, taking what they want and doing as they please. &ldquo;Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+20%3A11&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 20:11">Proverbs 20:11</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+20%3A11&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). It is obvious which children have been instilled with a deep respect for authority and which have not, the Bible says in the last days there will be a breakdown of family and a rise in wayward children (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=2+Timothy+3%3A1-5&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV 2Timothy 3:1-5">2 Timothy 3:1-5</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=2+Timothy+3%3A1-5&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6551</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hosea 13:16 is not an account of &#8220;holy child murder,&#8221; in fact, it is not an account of something that happened at all. Hosea 13 is not an account of what did happen, but a prophecy of what would/could happen. There are two prophecies given in Hosea but, again, only the negative one was mentioned. The first prophecy (Hosea 13) is of what would happen to Israel if they continued to turn from God and refuse His blessings and protection. The second (Hosea 14) is of the forgiveness, salvation and restoration they would receive if they would return to God and repent. 
 
Likewise, Isaiah 13:16-18 is part of a prophecy as well. At the time of Isaiah&#8217;s prophecy Babylon was still a part of the Assyrian empire, but long before Babylon ever became a world power and threatened Judah, Isaiah prophesied its destruction. Also, this destruction was by the Medes, not God or the Israelites. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13%3A16&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Hosea 13:16">Hosea 13:16</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13%3A16&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> is not an account of &ldquo;holy child murder,&rdquo; in fact, it is not an account of something that happened at all. <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Hosea 13">Hosea 13</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> is not an account of what did happen, but a prophecy of what would/could happen. There are two prophecies given in Hosea but, again, only the negative one was mentioned. The first prophecy (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Hosea 13">Hosea 13</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+13&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>) is of what would happen to Israel if they continued to turn from God and refuse His blessings and protection. The second (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+14&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Hosea 14">Hosea 14</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Hosea+14&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>) is of the forgiveness, salvation and restoration they would receive if they would return to God and repent. </p>
<p>Likewise, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Isaiah+13%3A16-18&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Isaiah 13:16-18">Isaiah 13:16-18</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Isaiah+13%3A16-18&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> is part of a prophecy as well. At the time of Isaiah&rsquo;s prophecy Babylon was still a part of the Assyrian empire, but long before Babylon ever became a world power and threatened Judah, Isaiah prophesied its destruction. Also, this destruction was by the Medes, not God or the Israelites.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6549</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psalm 137 does not &#8220;revel in the murder of little children,&#8221; the Psalmist is crying out for judgment of the harsh ways the Babylonians treated them. They were basically saying, &#8220;treat the Babylonians the way they treated us.&#8221; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Psalm+137&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Psalm 137">Psalm 137</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Psalm+137&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> does not &ldquo;revel in the murder of little children,&rdquo; the Psalmist is crying out for judgment of the harsh ways the Babylonians treated them. They were basically saying, &ldquo;treat the Babylonians the way they treated us.&rdquo;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6547</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The baby that died in 2 Samuel 12 was not only Bathsheba&#8217;s but David&#8217;s as well. David sent Uriah to his death to steal his wife, Bathsheba. A result of deceit, adultery and murder, the child never should have been born in the first place; it can also be argued that, had it lived, it would have been a sign to Israel&#8217;s pagan neighbors that their God rewards murder and adultery with an heir to the throne. It is very sad that the child died, but all sins and effects of sins are sad. The consequence of David&#8217;s sin was not only the death of his child, but constant humiliation, killing, and rebellion in his own house. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The baby that died in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=2+Samuel+12&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV 2Samuel 12">2 Samuel 12</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=2+Samuel+12&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> was not only Bathsheba&rsquo;s but David&rsquo;s as well. David sent Uriah to his death to steal his wife, Bathsheba. A result of deceit, adultery and murder, the child never should have been born in the first place; it can also be argued that, had it lived, it would have been a sign to Israel&rsquo;s pagan neighbors that their God rewards murder and adultery with an heir to the throne. It is very sad that the child died, but all sins and effects of sins are sad. The consequence of David&rsquo;s sin was not only the death of his child, but constant humiliation, killing, and rebellion in his own house.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6548</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the claim of God being fascist was dealt with during the First Commandment we can skip it here, but let&#8217;s talk about the texts cited involving the death of children. Yes, Leviticus 26:22 says God would &#8220;send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children,&#8221; but again, knowing the Hebrew word is very important. Shalach means to let depart, let go, or let loose; this shows that God was not saying He would physically lead the wild animals into their land, but that He would not prevent them from entering. Also, you have skipped over His promise of protection and only mentioned the consequences of abandoning their covenant and refusing His protection. A few verses earlier (Leviticus 26:6) He promised, &#8220;I will remove savage beasts from the land.&#8221; If they would stick with Him He would keep beasts away; If they turned away from Him He would remove His protection and let them (the beasts) loose. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the claim of God being fascist was dealt with during the First Commandment we can skip it here, but let&rsquo;s talk about the texts cited involving the death of children. Yes, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+26%3A22&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Leviticus 26:22">Leviticus 26:22</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+26%3A22&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> says God would &ldquo;send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children,&rdquo; but again, knowing the Hebrew word is very important. Shalach means to let depart, let go, or let loose; this shows that God was not saying He would physically lead the wild animals into their land, but that He would not prevent them from entering. Also, you have skipped over His promise of protection and only mentioned the consequences of abandoning their covenant and refusing His protection. A few verses earlier (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+26%3A6&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Leviticus 26:6">Leviticus 26:6</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Leviticus+26%3A6&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>) He promised, &ldquo;I will remove savage beasts from the land.&rdquo; If they would stick with Him He would keep beasts away; If they turned away from Him He would remove His protection and let them (the beasts) loose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6545</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is the parents&#8217; duty to raise their children with good principles. At birth children know nothing, their training and their education determine how they will turn out in life. Why do parents know best? Because they&#8217;ve already made many of the mistakes they are trying to protect their children from. It is not that parents always know what is the right way, but have learned, through their many years, what not to do. Wisdom gained over the years that is shared with our children can save a lot of headache, heartache and tragedy. 
 
Obviously it is very important for parents to be worthy of the honor they expect from their children. &#8220;And you fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord.&#8221; (Ephesians 6:4). While setting a bad example is not good, teaching one thing and doing another (hypocrisy) is far worse; after all, actions do speak louder than words. But far too many young people strive for independence and autonomy as early as possible, thinking they already have all the answers. There are countless examples of children hurt or killed because they did not heed the words of wisdom and warning from their parents. &#8220;The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice: and he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him. Thy father and thy mother shall be glad, and she that bare thee shall rejoice.&#8221; (Proverbs 23:24,25). 
 
Ephesians 6:1 says &#8220;Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right,&#8221; however, obeying one&#8217;s parents does not supersede the God&#8217;s law. The Fifth Commandment is about honor, not obedience. Note that the text says to obey your parents &#8220;in the Lord.&#8221; If a child is asked by their parent to do something that goes against God and what is right and good, than of course they should not obey the will of that parent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is the parents&rsquo; duty to raise their children with good principles. At birth children know nothing, their training and their education determine how they will turn out in life. Why do parents know best? Because they&rsquo;ve already made many of the mistakes they are trying to protect their children from. It is not that parents always know what is the right way, but have learned, through their many years, what not to do. Wisdom gained over the years that is shared with our children can save a lot of headache, heartache and tragedy. </p>
<p>Obviously it is very important for parents to be worthy of the honor they expect from their children. &ldquo;And you fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord.&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Ephesians+6%3A4&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Ephesians 6:4">Ephesians 6:4</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Ephesians+6%3A4&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). While setting a bad example is not good, teaching one thing and doing another (hypocrisy) is far worse; after all, actions do speak louder than words. But far too many young people strive for independence and autonomy as early as possible, thinking they already have all the answers. There are countless examples of children hurt or killed because they did not heed the words of wisdom and warning from their parents. &ldquo;The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice: and he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him. Thy father and thy mother shall be glad, and she that bare thee shall rejoice.&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+23%3A24%2C25&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 23:24,25">Proverbs 23:24,25</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+23%3A24%2C25&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). </p>
<p><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Ephesians+6%3A1&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Ephesians 6:1">Ephesians 6:1</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Ephesians+6%3A1&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a> says &ldquo;Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right,&rdquo; however, obeying one&rsquo;s parents does not supersede the God&rsquo;s law. The Fifth Commandment is about honor, not obedience. Note that the text says to obey your parents &ldquo;in the Lord.&rdquo; If a child is asked by their parent to do something that goes against God and what is right and good, than of course they should not obey the will of that parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6544</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God made man to be social beings, to love and be a family, to &#8220;be fruitful and multiply.&#8221; God was the father to Adam and Eve; they honored Him, and as they became parents they were to raise their children with the same reverence and humility. If this teaching had successfully been passed on from generation to generation all on earth would be respectful of others. &#8220;Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.&#8221; (Proverbs 22:6). Doing right as a child can naturally lead to doing right throughout life, but there is no command to love, there is no command to respect; the Commandment says to bring glory to them, to honor and be honorable. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God made man to be social beings, to love and be a family, to &ldquo;be fruitful and multiply.&rdquo; God was the father to Adam and Eve; they honored Him, and as they became parents they were to raise their children with the same reverence and humility. If this teaching had successfully been passed on from generation to generation all on earth would be respectful of others. &ldquo;Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.&rdquo; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+22%3A6&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="bibleref" title="NRSV Proverbs 22:6">Proverbs 22:6</a><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Proverbs+22%3A6&amp;vnum=yes&amp;version=nrsv" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://www.anatheist.net/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>). Doing right as a child can naturally lead to doing right throughout life, but there is no command to love, there is no command to respect; the Commandment says to bring glory to them, to honor and be honorable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray_Light</title>
		<link>http://www.anatheist.net/2009/01/bible-based-morality-the-fifth-commandment/comment-page-1/#comment-6543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray_Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very possible to be respectful &#8220;to&#8221; someone and not have respect &#8220;for&#8221; them, however, that is not the true meaning of the word &#8220;honour&#8221; as used in this Commandment. While the common dictionary can be quite helpful, it is usually best to go to the original Hebrew for true word meaning. In this case the word &#8220;honour&#8221; means to &#8220;glorify;&#8221; a bit different from the commonly thought meaning of &#8220;respect.&#8221; To glorify is &#8220;to cause to be or treat as being more splendid, excellent, etc., than would normally be considered.&#8221; While respect is something you &#8220;have for&#8221; someone, glorifying is something you &#8220;do for&#8221; someone. Honoring your parents doesn&#8217;t mean that you have to respect and obey them no matter what, it means that you bring glory to them by who you are; the person you have become and the actions you take, the life you live. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very possible to be respectful &ldquo;to&rdquo; someone and not have respect &ldquo;for&rdquo; them, however, that is not the true meaning of the word &ldquo;honour&rdquo; as used in this Commandment. While the common dictionary can be quite helpful, it is usually best to go to the original Hebrew for true word meaning. In this case the word &ldquo;honour&rdquo; means to &ldquo;glorify;&rdquo; a bit different from the commonly thought meaning of &ldquo;respect.&rdquo; To glorify is &ldquo;to cause to be or treat as being more splendid, excellent, etc., than would normally be considered.&rdquo; While respect is something you &ldquo;have for&rdquo; someone, glorifying is something you &ldquo;do for&rdquo; someone. Honoring your parents doesn&rsquo;t mean that you have to respect and obey them no matter what, it means that you bring glory to them by who you are; the person you have become and the actions you take, the life you live.</p>
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