Comments on: Religion & Torture http://www.anatheist.net/2009/05/religion-torture/ Atheism & Religious Skepticism Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:47:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Baptism By Torture | AnAtheist.Net http://www.anatheist.net/2009/05/religion-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-5117 Baptism By Torture | AnAtheist.Net Tue, 05 May 2009 23:12:26 +0000 http://www.anatheist.net/?p=2701#comment-5117 [...] that touches on issues raised by my last entry as well as on issues raised by the entry entitled Religion & Torture: —– Baptism By Torture - Sightings (Pastor Bob Cornwall/Ponderings on a Faith Journey; [...] [...] that touches on issues raised by my last entry as well as on issues raised by the entry entitled Religion & Torture: —– Baptism By Torture – Sightings (Pastor Bob Cornwall/Ponderings on a Faith Journey; [...]

]]> By: bren kryg http://www.anatheist.net/2009/05/religion-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-4914 bren kryg Sat, 02 May 2009 10:36:48 +0000 http://www.anatheist.net/?p=2701#comment-4914 Surveys can have a lot of errors depending on the sample population of the respondents. 742 is a very small sample for the US population and thus this research has a very very high "margin of error" in statistical terms. The problem is the media likes to sensationalize a research on religion especially when it is so negative without really checking the validity and reliability of the research. Another research should cross-validate the data on the news with a bigger population sample from different parts of the US. As for me and most statisticians this recent kind of research is most likely unreliable, invalid, and has a very wide range of "margin of error" aside from other variables that could have resulted to the conclusion. Most likely the one who did this research has a hidden agenda/motive against religious people, particularly to Evangelical and Catholic Christians. Surveys can have a lot of errors depending on the sample population of the respondents. 742 is a very small sample for the US population and thus this research has a very very high "margin of error" in statistical terms. The problem is the media likes to sensationalize a research on religion especially when it is so negative without really checking the validity and reliability of the research. Another research should cross-validate the data on the news with a bigger population sample from different parts of the US. As for me and most statisticians this recent kind of research is most likely unreliable, invalid, and has a very wide range of "margin of error" aside from other variables that could have resulted to the conclusion. Most likely the one who did this research has a hidden agenda/motive against religious people, particularly to Evangelical and Catholic Christians.

]]> By: Logan http://www.anatheist.net/2009/05/religion-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-4910 Logan Sat, 02 May 2009 07:49:16 +0000 http://www.anatheist.net/?p=2701#comment-4910 Found this post from a random google search. Like you, I often wonder why so-called Christians are so willing to kill in the name of God and Jesus, all the while ignoring the prophet's actual teachings and instead lean on the Old Testament (which - HELLO! - is actually the Jewish Holy Book). Nevermind that Jews do not believe in Hell, and it was somehow created during the change to Christianity. Just had a long discussion about this with my husband, too (which was kind of boring, as we both believe the same thing). There are two key issues: 1) many Americans don't believe what has been done is 'torture' and 2) they believe anyone taken by the US and put in a detention centre is already guilty - or even worse - 'evil'. Imagine the news reports if one of our servicemen were captured and tortured in the same manner? Each detail would be described as 'horrifying' I'm sure. Of course, our servicemen would be perfectly innocent, right? Anyone think that perhaps other countries feel the same way about their people captured by the US and stuck down in Cuba? As for not being torture - how about those people get a taste of the methods used? Or even watch as it's done to their own children? I moved out of the US back in 2006 because I'd had enough of America's arrogance. Of course I didn't vote for the administration at that time, but it was the actual American people that drove me out (and why I do not plan to return). Found this post from a random google search. Like you, I often wonder why so-called Christians are so willing to kill in the name of God and Jesus, all the while ignoring the prophet's actual teachings and instead lean on the Old Testament (which – HELLO! – is actually the Jewish Holy Book). Nevermind that Jews do not believe in Hell, and it was somehow created during the change to Christianity.

Just had a long discussion about this with my husband, too (which was kind of boring, as we both believe the same thing). There are two key issues: 1) many Americans don't believe what has been done is 'torture' and 2) they believe anyone taken by the US and put in a detention centre is already guilty – or even worse – 'evil'.

Imagine the news reports if one of our servicemen were captured and tortured in the same manner? Each detail would be described as 'horrifying' I'm sure. Of course, our servicemen would be perfectly innocent, right? Anyone think that perhaps other countries feel the same way about their people captured by the US and stuck down in Cuba?

As for not being torture – how about those people get a taste of the methods used? Or even watch as it's done to their own children?

I moved out of the US back in 2006 because I'd had enough of America's arrogance. Of course I didn't vote for the administration at that time, but it was the actual American people that drove me out (and why I do not plan to return).

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